tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4400152815785368447.post3778396663371498730..comments2024-03-15T07:28:47.064-05:00Comments on Treknobabble: Voyager, Season 3: Blood FeverUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4400152815785368447.post-77998438911138585862015-04-04T20:49:41.810-05:002015-04-04T20:49:41.810-05:00She mated with Tom cause she is attracted to Tom. ...She mated with Tom cause she is attracted to Tom. She didnt mate with Vorik because she didnt want him. Simple as that. <br /><br />What i did find strange is that anyone would even dare ask Tom - and even expect him - to sort of give himself to her. He consented, true, but there was an expectation that you HAVE to have sex with her (or let her have sex with you and impose herself on you in ths violent way) or else) and i find that way out of line. That is some serious transgression. If tom had not wanted to give his body to be used for B'Elanna's (primitive) mating purposes (even if it is to save her) that would have been perfectly valid too. But even asking him whether he would and later on actually insisting he does, as Chakotay did, is way out of line. They have simply no right. <br /><br />Imagine if the situation was reversed and someone had asked of B'Elanna to let Tom basically rape her or else he will die. Sacrifice your body and yourself to save a third party and if you dont, then you are a terrible person. This is anti-choice rhetoric right there. <br /><br />It is unbelievable to me that the writers put this in there and didnt think it could be problematic. It is fortunate that story wise Paris has been attracted to Torres all along, so it wouldnt really have been a sacrifice on his part. But that is just semantics a this point. The point is that they never had the right to even propose this. There is no such thing as "consensual rape". poppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09064123327462038174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4400152815785368447.post-47079613231615492132015-03-31T23:14:54.374-05:002015-03-31T23:14:54.374-05:00I agree that she would naturally be opposed to mat...I agree that she would naturally be opposed to mating with Vorik. But she didn't seem to have much problem mating with Tom. So his resistance sticks out to me as being strange - especially since he sort of flippantly reverses it upon Tuvok's insistence.matthewweflenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07540521459703556959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4400152815785368447.post-14384270434926139582015-03-31T17:20:47.341-05:002015-03-31T17:20:47.341-05:00Yeah the idea of the pon farr itself is idiotic. I...Yeah the idea of the pon farr itself is idiotic. I mean here you got this evolved species that, every 7 years, devolves into some baseline primate driven by mindless instinct to either fuck or kill the shit out of someone. It is stupid and it doesnt make sense. Higher life forms dont go through mating cycles like rodents and felines. So that's pretty stupid. <br /><br />But, if one accepts this as a given, then this episode is pretty interesting and i must say i am really surprised you guys think of it as merely a 2 each. This wasnt a horrible episode. I was very entertained and I loved how we found out a lot about Paris and B'Elanna, as well as their feelings for each other. I also found Tuvok's reaction to the whole thing interesting and why Vulcans are so secretive about it at all. I also liked that for once romance was explored (or sex) is this very raw, animalistic way. At our core we are biological beings and sex a perfectly normal biological functions so I never will understand why so many people feel shame about it. <br /><br />Also, I dont think that just because in the future people are less hung up about sex, B'Elanna should have given herself to Vorrik and had sex with him. Being open minded about sex and not using it as a tool to shame those who enjoy it, especially women, doesnt mean consent is irrelevant and that B'elanna may as well just fuck the entire crew of horny men as a favor and cause she's "modern." She didnt owe him sex, even if she was the kind of women who had sex with every man on the ship. She was not obligated to do Vorrik. poppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09064123327462038174noreply@blogger.com