tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4400152815785368447.post7375791468671798828..comments2024-03-15T07:28:47.064-05:00Comments on Treknobabble: The Next Generation, Season 6: Birthright, Part IIUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4400152815785368447.post-51659861325495759632015-07-17T20:52:53.700-05:002015-07-17T20:52:53.700-05:00Well for me it is the just sheer stupidity and pri...Well for me it is the just sheer stupidity and primitiveness of Worf's response in this conversation which is just emblematic of him and Klingons in general. Here you got this Romulan make a rather sophisticated point about what this place is, how unique and important, and Worf is hung up on the stupid caveman stuff. It was embarrassing. No wonder Q once asked him if he'd eaten any good books lately. lolpoppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09064123327462038174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4400152815785368447.post-52348578821202276622015-07-17T20:47:36.839-05:002015-07-17T20:47:36.839-05:00I think we might find it believable that they coul...I think we might find it believable that they could conquer races with technology, but that of course raises the question of how primitives would best a race with phasers and warp drives. Alternatively, I suppose it's believable that a warrior race would find technology valuable enough as a tool for war to allocate resources towards developing it.<br /><br />But I totally agree that the full variety of Klingon culture is underbaked. We do get a bit of discussion of this in "The Drumhead" and "The Chase."matthewweflenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07540521459703556959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4400152815785368447.post-54687137409119864462015-07-17T20:43:53.616-05:002015-07-17T20:43:53.616-05:00The thing about that was, there was a specific men...The thing about that was, there was a specific mention in TOS of a time when Klingons and Romulans cooperated, to the point of sharing technology (it was to explain why they reused a Klingon model in "The Enterprise Incident")matthewweflenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07540521459703556959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4400152815785368447.post-75685464087996814352015-07-17T20:39:57.852-05:002015-07-17T20:39:57.852-05:00Romulan: do you know of any place, any time in his...Romulan: do you know of any place, any time in history, when klingons and romulans have lived together in peace? We have despised each other, fought each other for centuries, except here where Romulans and Klingons live together in harmony. No government, no leader has ever done what I have done here.<br /><br />Worf: [grunt, oink. hits head with both hands, grunts] Yeah who cares about that? [grunt]. What about Toq who was overcome with blood lust engaging in the primitive act of hunting swine and who is being deprived of being of his BIRTHRIGHT AAAARRGH to be a primitive caveman as we speak? [grunt, oink, grunt]. Who cares about peace between our peoples when there are wild animals to be hunted for the dinner table and potential battles fought and won for the sake of fighting and winning battles? [grunt, oink] Romulans and Klingons live in harmony? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH...I DONT THINK SO. NOT WHEN YOU CAN SMELL THE BLOOD OF YOUR PREY AGAINST THE WIND AND FEEL POWERFUL IN YOUR BALLS. *grunt* *oink* WUHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH.....AAAAARRRRGHHHHH. OINK. GRUNTpoppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09064123327462038174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4400152815785368447.post-82533462239277236842015-07-17T20:25:28.578-05:002015-07-17T20:25:28.578-05:00I dont understand Klingon society. I mean here you...I dont understand Klingon society. I mean here you got this race of warriors and warriors alone, who, all they want to do is fight and die and be in battle. How does a civilization that is all about that and nothing else survive, thrive, develop warp drive or make strides and advances in medicine and technology? if being a warrior is the prime goal of every Klingon, their raison d'etre, then how do they have anything else? Do they have universities? Institutes of higher education? R & D? restaurants? Opera? Music? Clothing shops? Baby sitters? Toy stores? <br /><br />If being a warrior is all that makes you Klingon, then who are the people singing operas or serving food in restaurants or doing research, developing warp drive and all the things that make you not be a caveman? <br /><br />There is a lot of that in Star Trek: species you cant figure out why they are so advanced, like Nausicaans (spelling?) or the Aquatic Xindi (who dont even have hands and are huge and clumsy and swim, how did these whales come up with sophisticated technology like we see in ENT?), or the Hirogen in VOY. <br /><br />I try to not let such things bother me too much, I just suspend disbelief for the heck of being able to enjoy it, but then there is an episode like this that makes you think about it. All Worf wants them to do is go hunt, kill, eat, drink, man woman. grunt, fornicate, burp, hunt, kill. I mean really? Is that all klingons are? Caveman with warp drive? No one ever wonder how they got this far being so primitive? poppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09064123327462038174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4400152815785368447.post-66554746218448441412012-05-17T20:06:51.327-05:002012-05-17T20:06:51.327-05:00Klingons cannot wear deodorant. It's a deadly...Klingons cannot wear deodorant. It's a deadly poison for Klingons!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4400152815785368447.post-51621887750720481222012-03-07T20:18:13.977-06:002012-03-07T20:18:13.977-06:00I think there is a kernel of a great idea here, es...I think there is a kernel of a great idea here, especially given the background for Worf and his identity. But gluing it to the Data story and shoe-horning a DS9 guest turn, it prevented this one from even getting out of the gate.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05582237401541322274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4400152815785368447.post-78145936766914815832012-03-07T12:17:50.984-06:002012-03-07T12:17:50.984-06:00I always had the hots for the Ba'el. Yeah the...I always had the hots for the Ba'el. Yeah there were some serious logic issues. As was discussed in the review. Plus I think Ba'el stayed on the planet. But what happens when the kids are DNA tested and it is revealed who their ancestors are. But I like this episode more than you guys do.sirkatzalothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01196996609340706645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4400152815785368447.post-25742974870122203682012-03-06T18:40:33.933-06:002012-03-06T18:40:33.933-06:00Wow. This is one of my favorite episodes. To each ...Wow. This is one of my favorite episodes. To each his own I guess. As for Worf and the Prime Directive, he doesn't have much respect for it. Remember he is always the one yelling CAPTAIN WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!!The Fortunate Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05364524144583682576noreply@blogger.com